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the wonderful thing about the virtual
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world
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is that you feel that you are both
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connected to the entire universe
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and all alone at the same time so i'm
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hoping
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that the smile or the brilliant smile
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that i see on your face
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means that you can hear me right now
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excellent
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um i i want to say first of all what a
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pleasure it is to be asked
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to uh to to speak to to this um august
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organization or this whole people that
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are here today
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um you know often often when people ask
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you ask me to speak the first question
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is always
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why um and and actually
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jim answered that by by kind of saying
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that
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he sees a link in
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creativity purpose meaning
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and culture you know and it applies
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to every aspect of society
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particularly right now on a morning like
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this morning where
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no matter where you are politically um
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one
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one either is i don't know keeping their
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fingers crossed
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or one is uh deeply mindful
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of of the tricks that that life can
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throw at
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us um you know creativity and
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imagination is
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is is everything we're in a moment in
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history i think where
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where we cannot rely on on any
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past orthodoxies every past orthodoxy is
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simply there
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as a reference point to help guide us
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through this portal
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on this the first day of lockdown
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and so i i speak about purpose meaning
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and culture
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and and the way that it relates to my my
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game um as a narrative creator as a
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curator of of of art
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and in theater
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it plays out a little like this that our
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job
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is to slightly attempt
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to ride the zeitgeist nobody really
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knows what the zeitgeist is
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no one could have predicted the exact
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date of me too
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or the arab spring or black lives matter
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but as a
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curator of a space for artists for
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talent
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we have to sit there and look deeply
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at the trends and then
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analyze what might what might
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catalyze deep reflection
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what might catalyze change what might
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just
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entertain in a way that would allow
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people to feel good about themselves
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and gets to tomorrow all of those
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responsibilities
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they fall upon us we narrative creators
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we
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curators of the artistic space
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but none is as important actually as our
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reliance
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on discovering new talent
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on nurturing new talent
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there is a underlying belief structure
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that just around the corner is the next
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big star and i don't mean star in terms
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of
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someone that we worship but i mean the
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star is in someone whose contribution
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to our world can serve
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more than just the review pages of of
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our newspapers
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that can actually provoke change
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but at least reflection i mean i
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i don't want to sound evangelical but
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for me theater is is
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the 21st century church i say that
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because we go in
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to that space and we wait for a word
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we wait for the word to be given to us
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so that we can think about that word and
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use
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that word in order to motivate us
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through the next week and
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we do it communally we we sit with
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others and we see how the frequency and
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the vibration and the
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energy of the message sent through the
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three-dimensional form of the human
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being
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how it lands on us and how it lands on
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our
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companions who we may not know but we
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have
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shared if the play works we have
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shared something together
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we have taken it in together
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and that of course is born out of the
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imagination
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of the artists who come together
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to help us commune and
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again again i'm using these big words
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commune
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i mean these big words is evangelical
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church of the 21st century
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but i believe profoundly right now it is
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incumbent upon us all
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to have faith hold on to the truths that
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we know
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but also be ready to change
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as soon as the argument lands in our
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spirit and soul
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that tells us this is the direction of
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travel
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the palace of the imagination i often
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say
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doesn't sit within a theater but it sits
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within the mind of those who choose to
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come into that space
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and partake with us
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um theater is a non-linear abstract art
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form
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if i say to you in a television or film
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hey i'm in paris
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you uh you you want to see the eiffel
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tower or something like that in the
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background
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in the black box in the magic of theater
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i simply have to say to you
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i'm in paris and your mind does the work
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for me that is the power
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of the imagination of the audience
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and so i use that to select
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the work that i think should go before
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our audiences i'm i'm really proud there
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was a moment just before lockdown
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and i say this not to self-aggrandize
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but to say
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why i think that everything we do
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is not just about ourselves or our
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individual sectors
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but actually is about society there was
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a moment
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when we had a play on broadway and we
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had a play in the west end death of a
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salesman
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and we had a pulitzer prize-winning play
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in our main house
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and we had a play playing prisons and
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homeless shelters touring southwark and
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lambert
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where we work and for me that was my
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proudest moment
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of being an artistic director because it
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meant that we were serving
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every demographic that we possibly could
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and as i speak to you today i'm really
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mindful
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that one might go what is the link
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between
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theater and hr well for me
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the link is we are serving we are
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looking at the potential
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of everyone and we are trying to explode
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that potential we are bringing new
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energies and new life forms almost
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into our organizations not just to
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revolutionize them because i don't fully
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believe in revolution
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i believe in sustained and accelerated
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evolution that way it doesn't keep
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turning on itself
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but it keeps growing my job as an
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artistic director is to keep
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bringing in that blood to keep us
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evolving while holding on to the wisdom
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and the successes of those who have had
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experience
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and can negotiate with our audiences
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probably in a more familiar way
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and it's the combination of the wisdom
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of those who have
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been in our game for a while and the
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energy
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and new vision of the young emerging
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people
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that i think creates a vibrant sector
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and so i would say that to you
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i would ask the question to you that i
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asked to myself
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every day which is how how are you
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negotiating
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tomorrow how are you bringing
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the right people to the table sometimes
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against all orthodoxies how are you
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bringing those people
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are you bringing those people into your
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organizations
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that can create sustained evolution
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and when you bring those people in how
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are you looking after them
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how are you caring for them how are you
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making it so that their voice
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their legitimate voice comes through
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without them feeling the bandwidth tax
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of being
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alone of being the new
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of being possibly from a community
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that may not have had access to this
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part of your organization
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before i say i am a
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i'm a hard-wired optimist who believes
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in the
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power of the human imagination to
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supersede nearly every circumstance
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i believe profoundly in the need for
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human beings to interact with each other
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to commune with each other and to
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improve each other
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through that interaction having a
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discussion like this today
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is about all of us having moments to
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introspect
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and then share our wisdoms with everyone
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else
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that might want to listen and so
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in the 53 seconds i have left as i see
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flashing up here
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i i want to i want to thank you for
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inviting me to just
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share these thoughts but most
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importantly
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i leave you with the challenge
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one of my favorite sayings i have two
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favorite saints
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history is like a foreign land they do
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things differently there
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our children will not know our
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dispensation they will not know the
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world that we
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inherited they will only know the world
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that we have given to them
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and we have to make sure that the world
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that we give to them is one
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that we can stare at ourselves in the
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mirror
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and say i did all i could do
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to serve my country to serve my
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community
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to serve my sector in the best way
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possible
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thank you
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can't hear you tim thank you kwame that
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was absolutely amazing um
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appreciate it and it wouldn't be an
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online conference if someone didn't
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start talking without
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unmuting themselves so i'm glad that
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we've nailed that one already from the
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bingo right
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but essentially i was saying while i was
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muted
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thank you so much for sharing that and i
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think
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in my head not only i've been
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transported to my motherland of jamaica
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uh in that foreign land my first
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question is actually for you
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in order to navigate those um
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orthodoxies that you talked about as a
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leader yourself
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i'm gonna throw the question back to you
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how have you negotiated that
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as one of the first black leaders
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of a theater company how have you done
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that yourself
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i i i think tim i i i i seldom ever
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think about myself in terms of
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um of firsts uh though i may have
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achieved a few of them
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i'm you know i think class ceilings are
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there to be broken and once you've
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broken them you don't you shouldn't look
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back
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at it um but but i i think it's lonely
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tim
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i mean i'm not gonna lie it's lovely and
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i think
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it is about building a team around you
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that constantly
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keep you on your toes but also um
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making sure that the loved ones around
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you
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um are buffeted enough to be able to
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come home and
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and accept you going i feel so lonely
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um and give you enough love to help you
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through
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um but but it's about the team it's
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about
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making sure that your team know what you
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want
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the direction that you're traveling in
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that sometimes your orthodoxy
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may be new to them and that you just
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have to keep on explaining and trying to
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be as communicative as possible
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about direction of travel and why it's
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important to you
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why you have the north star that you
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have
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and from a from a personal perspective
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you've already mentioned the love of
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what you do and injecting love
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into the work that you do what is your
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vision
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not just for the arts but i'd love you
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to touch on that given the tumultuous
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times that you've
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gone through and the vocal speeches
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you've got about how important the arts
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is
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but what is your hope for the change
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that we need to see within our
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corporate organizations as a fellow
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leader
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my my hope is that our kpis um in the
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next year and the next two years
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um absolutely underlined that we heard
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we listened and we acted that is my hope
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for this moment
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my hope is that um many people of color
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across the world
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right now are going through and going
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through actually a lot of
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extra pressure they can see that doors
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are opening
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and they're going but it's going to
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close it's on a hinge it's going to
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close any minute now
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i've got to get through i've got to do
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more work i've got to get and and i
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think
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actually what society can do is
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prove to people of color that we've
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heard this time
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we are going to find the way to make
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sure
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that in five years time history is like
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a foreign land we can't even remember
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we don't even know what how we got here
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but our offices
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that our structures are reflective of
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our countries and of where we want our
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country
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to go and where we want our companies to
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be
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as opposed to where they were let's not
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hark about yesterday
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let's concentrate on the brilliant new
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tomorrow
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that we will create so that our children
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don't have to have this discussion
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and in 20 seconds are you optimistic
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about that dawn becoming a reality
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i am i have to be otherwise i don't know
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what i'm doing i i have to be
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i i'm optimistic in the 15 seconds left
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that i will say
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because i have seen the brilliance from
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the communities that want to knock at
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the door and i've seen the generosity of
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in the communities of those who say i
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will now open the door i am
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absolutely optimistic now is the time to
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prove our children that we're brilliant
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kwame kromar thank you so very much
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i know that we'll be talking to you
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later in a forum where we've got a panel
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of conversation
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so many of the guests who would be
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feeling that this was such a short
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snippet
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to get an insight into your mind will be
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privileged to know that you'll be
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in one of the sessions later but for me
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and from the audience at future talents
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20
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thank you so much for for sharing your
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thoughts with us much appreciate
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and we should see you beautiful to be
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with you my brother beautiful to be with
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you thank you
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